Creativity, Consciousness & the Breath Between: A Conversation with Leo Marrs
In this thought-provoking episode of The Tragedy Academy Podcast , host Jay Hicks welcomes Leo Marrs—spiritual technologist, founder of America’s first breathwork studio, and creator of the AI-integrated mindfulness app, Ether. Their powerful conversation dives into the intersection of consciousness, creativity, and technology.
From fasting as a path to mental clarity to breathwork as a tool for healing trauma and building resilience, Leo shares how ancient wisdom and modern tools can reconnect us to ourselves. The episode explores Integral Theory, the risks of spiritual bypassing, and how breath, language, and stillness foster self-awareness. Jay and Leo reframe AI not as a threat, but as a reflection of human consciousness.
Whether you're seeking healing, inspiration, or a better understanding of the mind-body-tech connection, this episode invites you to breathe deeper and think broader.
🔑 Key Takeaways
- 💡 00:03:34 – “Worry serves zero purpose.”
- 🤖 00:05:31 – AI mirrors our internal state.
- ✍️ 00:11:30 – Language shapes consciousness and culture.
- 🔥 00:18:18 – Fasting is empowerment, not deprivation.
- 💨 00:35:00 – Breathwork regulates the nervous system.
- 🧘 00:39:06 – “The breath always comes back.”
- 🧠 00:46:36 – Meditation is possible even with a dysregulated nervous system.
- 🧽 00:47:11 – Yoga helps release emotional residue.
- 🗣️ 00:48:22 – Authenticity is the foundation of real influence.
👤 Guest Bio: Leo Marrs
Leo is a founder, philosopher, and consciousness explorer helping people bridge ancient wisdom with modern innovation. From Alaska-born wilderness survivor to nightclub impresario and breathwork pioneer, Leo’s work blends spiritual practice with futurist thinking. He is the creator of the Ether app and author of the upcoming book The New Creator , focused on resilience, creativity, and mindful evolution in the Meaning Economy.
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Leo Marrs
Founder, Writer, Designer
I'm a founder, philosopher, and consciousness explorer who helps people bridge the gap between spiritual wisdom and practical creation in the emerging Meaning Economy.
Born in the wilderness of Alaska, my journey spans from award-winning entrepreneur and nightclub impresario to pioneering the first modern breathwork studio. My philosophy of "Evolution by Intelligent Design" emerged after a profound consciousness-expanding experience at age 27 that completely transformed my worldview and set me on a path of deeper inquiry.
My work integrates ancient wisdom practices with futurist thinking, exploring how presence, natural intelligence, and conscious creation can shape both individual lives and collective futures. I'm currently writing The New Creator: Rise of the Mindful Artist in the New Meaning Economy, examining how creativity is evolving beyond algorithmic demands toward meaning-centered work.
Drawing from diverse experiences—from wilderness survival encounters to philosophical discussions with some of the world's most celebrated thinkers—I offer a unique perspective on navigating life's paradoxes and accessing deeper states of consciousness through practical techniques like active breathing and imagination.
