Detention Episode! ”The Unringable Bell: Power Slap Heavyweight Champ Damien Dibbell”

0:33 well, uh, welcome to the Tragedy Academy, a show created to bridge societal divides in a judgment free zone using candor and humor. My name is Jay, got Gary here today. We are in studio. Gary, I'm going to let you introduce your friend and, uh, we'll go from there. got the bell in the house. Uh, power slap. Um, man, it's a, it's a crazy game. Y'all play. Uh, welcome to the tragedy Academy. How you doing? Cool. Cool. I'm gonna put that a little awkwardly close to your face like that. You ever had a grown man something like that at you? You might, might, you might get slapped for that. It's like, if somebody was like. Man, Man, Mike gets slapped for that worst sound to hear when a mic's coming at you like that?

1:23 I don't know if I could tell this joke on the air, but why couldn't you this all this guy used to work with those. He used to say, you know what? The last thing you wanna hear when you're sucking Willie Nelson's dick. I'm not Willie Nelson. Oh, No, no. I, no. no. I don't even know how that, not really true. I don't even know how that, that, that's just, dunno, none of that None of that helped. Yeah. No, no. I did hypothesize once with some friends what it would be like to smoke Willie Nelson's braid. This book is Break it real high. You fucking probably see God. Y'all might not like that. I don't know who. Oh, Keith. God, dude. I just aged like 30 years in one sentence.

2:05 Willie Nelson's like the most famous singer of all time. Willie Nelson is country snoop. Yeah. Like they're, they're each other's friends. That is a thing, country, that makes sense. He was always like the country guy that was like, not racist or whatever, just like, he was just cool, like, everybody just internationally accepted as like, a cool. I'm not convinced that you don't you have to at least know what this guy looks like. Keep going, Gary, I'm not doing it. he had long, like, great like, gray hair and like, two braids always now, in the bandana. But he just He's the quintessential dude. Well, DeBell's 21 years old. I know that I thought he was 21 when I tried to put him on powerslap first time.

2:47 Not even familiar? Maybe Like, the bath logs. I remember. Yeah. Holy shit, I'm old. Yeah. but I mean, he's been dead for a while, right? I think he's dead. He's dead. dead, isn't he? You heard it here first, if he is. Oh, he's not dead? Hang on. Now Now I'm scared. Like, we're just fucking perpetrating all sorts Oh, maybe he's not dead. Hey, I thought he was dead. We're not calling you up. Oh, he's real old man. Hey, I just offered to smoke his braid, dude. I think he's dead. He's 90. Oh, never mind. He's not dead. Yet.

3:27 That do proves that you cannot die from THC consumption though. Yeah, this probably helps in some ways. Um, but yeah, I mean, I wouldn't expect someone in their 20s to really early 20s to know that. I mean, when was the last time you saw him? get the gist of it. Dude smoked a lot of weed. he smoked one of his braids. He pretty fuckin Yeah, he's out there with like Snoop, Cheech, and Chong, like the weed smoking people, like, in society. But he up there on that list. Oh, is like legendary status. He stands with them. Damn. Yeah, 100%. They would all say the same. I can't imagine that any one of them would say that Willie wasn't welcome at that table of heroes.

4:08 Yeah. Yeah, kind of sad, man. You're missing out on like something that's really classic. It's country, obviously. And if it's not your thing, it's not your thing, And it's not really even mine. But there's something about the dude. that He was just so just. peaceful. It's like that old country. It's not like that Kenny Chesney, like, pop country. It's, but it's not also, it's also not like the real, like my dog died either. I know. It's hard to explain. Cash almost. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, he's just no like there's legends in everything. Right. like. like. If it's hip hop, it's like a biggie or something. If it's classic rock, you know, Jim Morrison or Hendrix, like country and like Johnny and Willie Nelson.

4:52 Willie Nelson, you know, like Garth Brooks or something like like that from the 90s. I don't know if you put them in the same band. No, you don't. Not at all. But I got friends low places, man. You ever see white people at a wedding when that comes on? Have you seen you seen that? They get hyped up. They get so hyped up. I'm from, I'm from Okeechobee, Florida, dude. You want to see some people lose their shit when they go, Oh yeah, they get they get so, they get crazy. I mean, my mom worked, uh, my mom ran the party center at our church for like 35 years. And, uh, whenever I got in trouble, as a kid, which was every time, uh, I had to watch dishes and bus tables and shit on the weddings and we get.

5:32 Every 100% of time that chick came on and it's just white sweaty dudes like their arms around each other Swing back they just be singing it yeah They would play like three times and then like mixing the cha cha slide and uh, it took me all night long. Yeah, we we will Fuck up a line dance for white people, man, we just to do that shit. Give us a, give us a square to work in, and we'll utilize every single piece of it, but only mathematically, and with no rhythm. No rhythm. Math, math. It's like, one, two, three, four, that's all you're doing.

6:13 Yeah, that's... Maybe that's me. No, I was gonna say, I just don't even do that. I just two step and throw up gang signs. I'm I'm confused. Yeah. I like this guy. That's it, that's it, that's it. It's all... I like the juxtaposition in this. What what does the outfit look like when you're throwing gang signs and steps? Yeah, it's just the two steps, it's just one two. It's not necessarily, like, I'm like, it ain't, I'm not Irish line dancing. You're not like, describing, like, the quintessential minor with the guns? It's a lot less than that. You know? it's a lot, less up and, like, the feet don't really move that much. It's just, it's just enough. Just walk. Oh, you you mean like the corner of the dance floor? It's like mostly in the shoulders.

6:55 Mostly in the shoulders, yeah. yeah. That's a look. dude. Yes. You can fuck that up. Oh, you can. Which is really funny. How is that possible that you can do just something simple, like bob your head to music and just kind of go back and forth and you can be cool and uncool next to each other. If you have to try, it's not going to work. And if it just, if it just happens and you just, it just, you do it. You got the rhythm. If you're trying to have the rhythm, you don't have the rhythm. Try is always problem. It's one of the reasons why I think that black people have more rhythm, is because they're more authentic.

7:36 I think that when you're authentic, you're not scared of what people think of you and you're likely to do the things that more people are going to like and enjoy because they're inclined to do it themselves. I think that we're always just fucking always upset at other people having fun and they're having fun better than us. Yeah, And we got to be upset about it. You're laughing too hard. Like, no, I wish that's cool for, I wish I was laughing that hard, or I didn't feel judged when I did laugh that hard. Yeah. Yeah. I'd be bad so hard, Especially after the last event that we just did, I was having such a great time Well, everyone else is like, huddled around, Talk about their fights. Oh, what did you think did here? Hey, how did my match go? At the end of the night, I just look at people and be like, bruh, don't ask me no more questions.

8:18 no more. Drop that. I'm trying to have a good time. I'm trying to get drunk. If you miss my fight or some shit, or you can't get rid of this headache. Or get it, get it, make, make it worse tomorrow, but right now. Uh, for the people that don't know about your last fight, uh, what organization are you in? What sport is it? And, you know, tell us about the last fight. Uh, if you don't know, it's Power Slap. I slap people, uh, money. Uh, last time was pretty good, you know. So I was doing pretty hard. Throw down got a bill, you know, shit that. Your, your name is like the moniker of all monikers for people getting hit in the head.

9:00 Like I sat like for a solid two hours just running different gimmicks through my head that would go with the bell. Like you could come out like, ring my bell. Yeah. It's true. That's, I mean, and that's just. The beginning of it. You could be you could come in and dress are you going to be like the bell of the ball? You could be you know, so many this is the dinner bell Come on chow time all sorts of shit, man, and then I gave him your real name and you're just like fuck that's whites Yeah. I love it. It's perfect. Yeah. They tried to convince me to change my name. or something. I was like, Who would convince you this? not? Some people just don't They They just don't fuck with the bell.

9:42 I don't know why. I mean. Well, I mean, we did just have a long conversation about how the three of us don't want the belt, but at least the belt ended. Yeah. I mean, you bring someone's belt. bell, it's. You hit him really fuckin hard. Exactly. I got my whole catchphrase under my Instagram. It's like the unringable bell. The un ringable bell. Yeah, you don't got your little thing in the middle. You could come in with like a piccolo and like be dressed like you're in the 1800s. And be the Liberty Bell. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. No, it comes in with like Benjamin Franklin. Like a powdered wig. Look at your powdered wig. Powdered right there.

10:23 your wig. It's a slap powder their face. It's the Liberty belt. Oh, that's amazing. Yeah. Four score bam! Four score, 16 stacks. and 16 slaps. Woo! Ha ha ha ha ha. I love that. I'm sorry. So, it, Gary had said you 21 years old. Yes. 21 years old, and thrust into a sport that's on every and every piece of social media, and not only did you rise to the occasion, but you find yourself in the seat of a coach. How does that feel? talking to people, you know, that are older than you, or like they have different perspectives, which we all do. You know, experience is a lens.

11:04 It's not fucking anything more than that. It's what have that somebody else hasn't done or a different perspective. That though, there's got to be some odd dynamics that come into play when someone your age is teaching someone else that feels they know what they're doing, how to do something and how you became a coach. Uh, So for the coach part, uh, I got to become coach over the TV show because I was too young to participate in it. So they brought me in as the assistant coach. So it kind of led me into that role. and Ron and me really worked together there's a good chance that that you'll learn how to coach this new sport for new guys. But as far as like everything else, like...

11:45 how it felt and what it was like, it's just, I honestly, I just took it one day at a time and did what I had to do. And I always try to show respect to get respect. I didn't expect anyone to show me respect just because I've been doing this longer. I'm the student in the room every fucking time. So I... These, These, dudes have been doing other stuff, pro MMA, pro kickboxing, all this other stuff. They still deserve our respect. I'm not going to show, you know, take that from anybody. Just you show me respect, I'll show you respect, and and we'll both work together to build this for it. that's what it's really about. Well, and you know, when you sit in a coach's chair, your job is not to make people comfortable. It's to make them uncomfortable because you're trying to push them beyond what they think they're of or what they don't believe in themselves to begin with.

12:33 So the moment that you can recognize that and just give them that extra push, that strength and realize that, You know, it's not about the fact that you've done it for X amount of time, or they've done it for X amount of time. Because the that you become complacent in your capabilities, that's the moment somebody comes up and rings your fucking bell. Right? You can never be complacent, especially in this kind of sport, because anybody can knock you out, you can be having a bad day it doesn't matter. Anybody could knock him. Well, It's just just that kind of sport. Yeah, sport. Yeah, it's uh, it's it's, a crazy thing. And uh, I will admit that I kind fucked up and I didn't check his age. And uh, he was supposed to, for those that don't this, this Kelvin, I was the ex Yeah.

13:18 Was the executive producer of the show of, you know, the first season. and. You know, we tried to get the in the world. So we looked at the organizations that exist already, and he was the first choice. you one of the top, there's three guys that two and him, we know, you know, those were the best guys in the world at the time, still are, you know, um, but two of two are, yes, Um, one knocked down out. Didn't win. Um, yeah, uh, it's a, it's crazy. It's crazy sport. But uh, so he went through all of his medicals and everything. And we're deep into it. They're like, that going to be a problem? He's not 21.

14:01 Look at his beard. He's got to be 21. He's like, nah. like, Kevin, he's been doing this for a while. Like, he's got a bunch of matches. Like, that's a grown man right there. They're like, nah, man, look at his birthday. I like that you can't get slapped, but you can go defend your country. yeah, Oh, yeah, you can't buy a beer. I can't buy a beer, but you can take a... Yeah, couldn't do a TV show, but I could go fight for my country. Yeah. So they're like, well, he just can't come. And I was like, we got to figure something out. That was similar to the Fighter when Kelvin was there. He was the youngest, um, on that season. Yeah, he ended up, uh, being assistant coach because they wouldn't let him in the house, So like he had to kind of skip the house, which...

14:42 Yeah, man, that was, It sucked so bad. mean, I When I was in the army, that's I think about when I see those things. I'm like, it's just some asshole slugging a whole bunch of alcohol, usually me, back then, saying things I shouldn't, running around like a fool. Because let's face it, nobody been outside, you know, in the real world yet. Anyway, like, yeah, that was, that was rough though. I've done 40 seasons of the ultimate If you count all the international seasons, I've been there since season one, seen it all And that motherfucker, that house was crazy. I mean, it was brawls day one.

15:23 You know, I'm in the middle of like, stop, you know, I'm telling guy, you got to stop peeing in your pants. I'm telling a grown man that. And I'm like, if you keep peeing yourself, you're going to have to go home. You know, that's on TV too. And then, you know, then I got the crazy Hawaiian dude. He's got more military, by the way. Yeah, oh yeah. I can see me, can see me and stopped drinking so much. He had to go to the hotel for night. Like so he didn't get himself killed or like go through another mattress and uh, man, it was it was rough I mean these guys You know, it was all kind worst place to be yourself national TV. No, yeah, then the guy weighed in against him I had a on Like, just a punctual of them.

16:06 I remember that. I mean. He really got a diaper. Yeah, Dana's like, where the fuck did you get this? Like, I put it on the list. Like, oh shit. I put it on the list! Who's the asshole was the store that day for the team? picking up some Depends and fucking GNC shit. Yeah, oh yeah. Yeah. do his, like, weigh-ins in the diapers too? Like, did stripped out? Oh yeah, Yeah. he was just standing there in a diaper. Like, standing in diaper. He get his opponent. To like funk. He's like, yeah, I feel like that backfired. Yeah. Yeah. I don't see any situation where I'm one up at somebody by where the fuck. Yeah. And like, it's not, it's not a win.

16:47 I mean, you are getting in his head in a bizarre way. I don't know. Maybe we're wrong. Maybe this is genius. Like you're not supposed to mad. Right. But like this, I feel like you pissed your opponent off, it's not good in this because that just No, this is a sport you don't year. Yeah, they're really like No, they start pulling on like fucking generational fucking anger Their arms coming around at Mach 1 And the only defense you have, I think, because I've been thinking about this, like I'm genuinely curious because that's like the biggest rub. Everybody's like, well, fucking you're not defending yourself, you're taking a hit to the head And you think about boxing and MMA and weight cut, you always hear about the amount of fluid you've got in your head, you know, is, is definitely something that protects you in these situations.

17:33 Do you guys like force hydrate before going on this and stuff like that? So your brain doesn't smack hard into the side or? Like, I'm serious. I mean, think about that one. I mean, what's the worst that could happen? Gush gusher out the ear? If you get knocked out, could piss yourself. I mean, at that point, what else? You got knocked out. I feel like pissing yourself doesn't matter. That is a good point because, you know, they do say the brain is the last thing to hydrate when you cut weight so that you're more susceptible to being knocked out. Give yourself like six IVs saline before you go in there, all bloated. I mean, probably you can do that one. Yeah, it's technically, no IVs are allowed. Yeah.

18:13 athletic condition. just force hydrate. Just hit yourself a whole bunch of Gatorade or whatever. Yeah, you could like butt chug a gallon or something. Butt chug. Why does it gotta be so violent? Yeah, I mean, you don't drink so much, you know. it's like, Why is this It's normal, son? Well, then you gotta, you know, do both. Like, got Motley Crue that shit. shit. Do you, gotta... I feel like it I feel like it shouldn't be watered, like, if you're gonna go that far, at least you should use, like a drug or alcohol. Is that Gatorade? Gatorade? Would that sting? Like, is it red? No, I don't think the don't think the color matters. I don't like chicken wings coming out, let alone Gatorade going in. Yeah, that's, best.

18:55 That doesn't have Anything to do with it. do. I mean, I don't think the flavor matters, but I would probably with that. It absolutely does. I argue that it does because you can taste things through your membranes. You can't taste things. You... You ever had an IV shot, saline, put in you? You don't ever taste it in your mouth? Every time I taste it. No matter what you inject me with. Oh No, I don't fucking try this, but I can only imagine. that it's a You can get high as shit on opiates in the butt. Yeah, but you can't, you can't taste it. There's no way that... you can. Well, I mean, we can test this. Oh yeah, I heard you can dip your nuts in sauce. That's not a thing.

19:37 I'm gonna have some saltiest later. I love the disdain of that response. It's like he was angry and believe it. That's not a thing. There's no way. I, I, I, I'm to bet money that if we broke out the original flavors Orange, red, yellow Fanta No, original Gatorade I said no no Sierra Mist, I said Sprite. we're talking Gatorade, not no Arctic Mist Not nothing blue on the red Gatorade. I don't know what flavor it is, just the red one. orange, yellow. Red is alarming. It is. I don't want You ever eat something that like red, you get red velvet candy? Oh yeah, I got a story I that.

20:20 So, yeah, quick story. Uh, my, two of best friends, uh, they're together, They a bunch of kids now, but when they're gonna have their first kid, and baby shower, it was like an 80s baby shower. And, uh, I was, I was like flavor, flavor, I think I had a clock and like a tangle on on and shit. And maybe, yeah, maybe it was 90s. I don't remember, but that's what I what I was with. And, uh, so, uh, the next morning, you know, it was like, parents smoking weed, like all kinds of shit, you know, it wasn't your average, uh, baby shower film crew. And the next morning I woke up and took a shit and it was the reddest. Like it was a disaster, you know, I called my mom and was my mom's like I don't drink anymore You know, I drink here and there but back in in my day I used to get a little wild, my always used to tell me, you know after a couple times going to jail other things that you're gonna fuck, kill Keep drinking and acting like an idiot and she'd get on my case She as she should.

21:14 So I called her and I was like, fuck, I I think I did it. Like I fucked my life. I did it. I'm like, I'm fucked. Like I'm bleeding. Like I I, what are you talking about. And I'm like, it's it's like so red. Like I, I just like, I'm I don't, I was freaking out and I was, I'm laughing cause I've been there where you look at it and you're like, no! It was bad. Bad. Bad. So my friend Jamie it's John and Jamie, the couple, um, my mom calls her and, uh, they're friends. And my mom calls me back and like the three-way call me and they're laughing. I'm like, you listen. This is fucking funny? Having time. And she's like, well, you passed out.

21:56 She's like, you smoked a blunt with Cliff. And then you passed out on the chair by the pool, and then you woke up at like five in the morning, and I was making coffee, and you ran into the house and grabbed a whole tray of red velvet cupcakes and went, Ha Ha ha! And you ran out the door. What the fuck? Hamburglar. Yeah, exactly. And then I yelled at you to give them back, and you just started pounding them and just eating them just biting me, and then you went home and passed out. And um, you a giant red velvet turd. You don't that part cause you're an idiot and you're an asshole. You're drunk, stoned and uh, that's what you get? I like the haha. Yeah.

22:36 Yeah. Moved to a sixties cartoon . Yeah. Ha. Yeah, probably. Yeah. I was like, you twist your mustache? Fictional mustache , but. I did not taste Red but when I was shitting those out And I don't think I would taste of those. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it doesn't work that way. We might have like, I hope that the design of the human body is eliminate the taste of shit. Like that's the one thing you shouldn't have Flavor. Could you imagine this? time you took a shit, you're like, UGH! UGH! It tastes like, crap. How much are you willing to bet on this? thing? Like, get, get, what, an enema bag, and, like, the flavor? Nah, turn it into a ice cube. You gotta melt it in there.

23:19 Good size ice cube, I don't know what size. Why are you That's a That's long, dude! Write it down for us, dude! Bring it down to what size! I'm fucking scared! Nah, bad. Like, you're like holding up a fucking natural light gate in a brown paper bag. Why is it natural light? You make it even whiter. Like, I have to whitest thing I've ever sat out Like, look violent, dude. Like, oh, not an ice cube. Yeah, why, who, who eats cube like this? You gotta like this? Yeah, make sure you get something in there, bro. You gotta that all in there. flavor. Like a fucking fudge sicle?

24:01 Yeah, but that's like... Why is it gotta be cold? Oh yeah, what's an ass freeze feel like? Oh, man. I, I'm... You don't have taste buds in your butthole, so how can you taste something? Well, you don't have taste in your arm, but when they give you a shot, you taste it. I I don't remember ever I apologize, man. I've had a lot of surgeries and stupid scans and shit, and every time they want to do something like that, you taste it. Immediately. I remember. It's like a metallic, weird flavoring, depending on what it is. Yeah We're gonna have to figure out that's willing to test this Well, I mean, you get ass tattoos for fun, And I haven't got yet. You hear about this? What? Oh, yeah.

24:41 This is a great story. This is a detention episode, by the way. It was, you know, typical, like, film crew, quarantine, Hot Wheels races, ass tattoo kind of of scenario. No! None of those words went together. Is this a lip? I would need you to map this one out. Kind of Got a flow chart. There's a show called Street Outlaws that I worked for a long time. street racing show. And during quarantine, uh, they sent a hundred of us to the middle of Wyoming to film the show and we were in one hotel and there was probably like 90 dudes, 10 girls, maybe less, you know, so not very many voices of reason as the women normally are.

25:25 Um, and on the show it's real street races. Unless they're taking flip flops off. True. That's a, That's a, definitive sign that the woman is not in for any other smart things. Because the flip flops going into the hands. Oh, yeah. I was gonna say gonna say when the hoops started. Oh, the hoops, too. Hip Hip hop. Hip hop. hip hop. Hip hop. wearing hoops. I said hip hop. I that you brought the hand out. Oh, yeah. I had hoops. In high school, I had, like, the small, like, you know, 90s hoops. Like, the Beverly Hills 90210. I had a couple hoops. Yeah, I had the diamonds. Oh no, you had the same knobs.

26:05 I, had the the diamond. I had, I had the big fake xons from Piercing pagoda. Okay. So Pearson Pagoda. I think that's where I got my first earring. Yeah. In the mall. . Yeah. where else did you get it? There used to be malls, like in Cleveland. Now there is no malls, but when I was a kid, there was malls skinny. Yeah. Back in school. Oh, the second one was that way. it was an Army? This dude's zillage. He used to work at like a, he worked at like Pearson place, or at least he told me. He believed anything back then, then, there was there was no Google. Google! I no Google. I remember he busted out an ice cube and a potato and needle. And I was like, all right. What's a potato? I guess to give it a backing to hit into, so you're not like poking sideways or something.

26:49 I? don't know. Oh, so cause I cause I was drunk, so it's not like I was in my right mind. I was letting a dude that looked like he was in punk hardcore cram a needle through my ear. All decisions were fucking insane at that point. Fair enough. Yeah, nah, I wouldn't, well, I, I, at any Everybody would do something stupid like that in the right moment. Yeah, we just didn't. Put a girl in the room and he'll do anything at that age. Yeah. was, went to the mall and it is, it was like 12 bucks. And you got this little shitty earring. Yeah. Yeah, I haven't had a piercing. They haven't done anything for me, I can tell you haven't had a You think so? Pearson. They so. I You are like haven't done anything for dude.

27:31 You're super chill. I tell You that. you think so? I think so. I just have the angry guy is compensating for fear. If you've got to hype yourself and fucking like smack yourself in in the face and do all that shit, then you're not there. You're not, you're you're at a deficit. And And guy looking across you, if he's like picking, Oh yeah, before you I craziest looking guy, you get slapped, You fucking like, no, I should do that to somebody. You should check, check text, hold your camera. Like, Alright, smile at the camera. Yeah. It's a, It's a, crazy that you can actually do that. Oh, I mean, he's got 30 seconds to do it.

28:11 I really think Power Slap is missing the mark without gimmicking a bit and allowing people to be themselves walking in. Yeah, no, I really them to start adding that, that's great. Cam Awesome brought up some great points about that. He's Olympic boxer when he was on and his dream was to just a ring announcer. He would go into his boxing matches wearing like tutus shit and jumping around. Yeah. Oh, that's great. Trying to do with dreads. That's, that's the meetings. You know, I bet he hunts Pokemon. I would not be surprised. Yeah, probably. We need to get on the same team. team. I got a lupia, I could trade him. That's not words I understand.

28:52 Did you say a what? A lupia? Isn't that like when you spit? Yeah, that's like what I used to do to my brother. Like, sucking it back up over him. You ever do that? The, the stringer? Where you hold somebody down and you like spit and suck it back up. Spit, suck it back up. do it just hit you Just hit him right square in the eye, no torture? Yeah, that's a good shot. Yeah, see, I feel like that's... Why is it more disrespectful just take it once? I don't know. I feel like the bully is like a situation, but the guy that walks up and just plants one right in your left eye, that's that's old. I mean, I don't know, I've never actually seen a real life bully.

29:34 Like you haven't. Oh, I've never had. Well, I'll tell you what's funny. We have my buddy coming on later today, and we were talking about yesterday, and he bullied this kid so bad that he moved from Florida when they were like fourth grade. And I found the kid. I found the guy. He lives in Missouri now, and we're going to call him, and he's going to apologize. That's cool. That's awesome. That's awesome. That's awesome. I like that. That's pretty fun. He punched in the nose one time. Broke nose, kid never came back to school, and I found the guy. And name's Gary. That's the reason that he brought it up. So I only ever knew one and I punched him in the nose and then he disappeared. And today he's he's coming and this is Gary. Yep. So. You should apologize to Gary Lifetime.

30:16 Right? Oh, back to the ASTAT story before I forget. Scott. So, it's street outlaws. They're real street races, but on a, uh, controlled environment. Shut the road down, and again, Tens thousands of dollars. And we watch every day. I like to gamble, but we got to film it. We're allowed to gamble. And, uh, so we're like, fuck, we're gonna be stuck in this town in Wyoming for months. Like, two three months. And, uh, it sucked, but it was either that or just don't get paid because everything else was shut down. Um, so one of the guys, uh, came up with the idea to build a, um, Hot Wheels track in the back of the hotel, like big, like long track.

30:57 Because that's what normal people do. So we decided to, you know, there's nothing else to do. The bars and restaurants were closed in the town. We just literally had this hotel and was it. And, um, so this is great because of the guests that's out next too. I'm just going to be a good, All right. It's a great, so, so, uh, his name is Ty. So we started gambling and like I called engineers from Mattel. Like we did research. We were cars on eBay. We bought every car. I this is like thousands of dollars getting bent and we just like, and, uh, we bought every car, like killing it. So I had Black Jesus was my car. Never lost.

31:38 Uh, the Everlast song Black Jesus came on while we were driving back from, uh, Walmart and, uh, The girl from the south was like, you got name that car. like Jesus now. And she in that like southern accident. And I was like, ok. It's like Jesus. I'm like, you're black and you're Southern Baptist. can gimme permission to call it back. He got vouched for permission. I have my card. What? Black Jesus. Yep. So it's black. Jesus. So I won everything. Never lost what? Black Jesus. Yeah. Weeks. Black Jesus. Yeah. Weeks and weeks and weeks of this. original I was uh, maybe 17, 1800 bucks, maybe more, um, you saying so? and I lost money, like gambling on people, but never lost on that one.

32:21 So we get to the finals. It's like almost, you know, shows almost over. So everybody's out there. The whole crew, all girls thought we were so stupid. And then they'd play like one time and then they got hooked and they're like costume. It's like impressing somebody with hot wings. Yeah. Watch. It was lot of fun. And uh, You know, especially because there's nothing else. And, uh, so, we're going, it's like a big tournament at the end. And I'm just smoking everybody. It's a this big tournament. And I'm going to, show you some video. I'm smoking everybody, and there's a sound guy named Scotty, and he pulls out this, Cop car a French fucking cop car. Oh man, the worst. Yeah, and Like, it has an accent on the siren that's not It's got that stupid Yeah there's no way that thing's gonna win So he's like pretty tatted up and now I got a couple chances not a lot and uh, he's like let's bet 700 and then the loser's gotta get the winner's tattoo on their ass.

33:18 I guess let's do it. I got fucking smoked By the cops. Black Jesus gets taken out by the fucking police. Guys! That's the irony! And French cops. like, Yeah, the worst. I feel like they're hitting you with a baguette. Yeah, Yeah, they need to have guns. This is the number one French podcast. We love all French people. Yeah, so I still have to get that tattoo. I prepaid this, uh, porn star tattoo artist in Cleveland to give it, I mean in Vegas to give it to me. And, uh, art schedules have not lined up since. Uh huh. Conveniently lined up. He's gotta get not just a cop car in his ass, but a French car. Yeah.

33:59 Yeah. This shit said lame cop car. Yeah, it's lame cop So My friend Tyler that's coming in next. He was there. He's a camera guy on the show. So I was pretty pissed off, you know, it's in the night and the camera starts slugging Jameson and having foot races. So I'm like, it's time for the Irish goodbye. So I just dipped out. Well, I get a phone call. It took me while to get that one too. I didn't understand what that meant. He had to explain it to me. Irish goodbyes is when you just disappear. Like, your friend, you say bye to nobody.

34:41 Like, he's just gone. Usually that's when you find a girl at that age. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Or you're face down. I'm from Cleveland. There's two kinds of white people, Irish and Italian. And Irish people just tend to disappear, I guess. I don't know. That's what they told me. me. And then there's Irish Waterfall. That's the next morning when you're shitting and then... Why is it Irish? Because you're shitting the same time. And Why is it Irish? Irish Waterfall? Yeah, that's the glass. It's when you're... Are you bent over like a ewe? No, you're taking a shit and then you got to try to puke in that little spot, like right here, and try to get it. Oh, down your d... D? Yeah, I mean, there's... I mean, the other way is is Get a bag! Well, you might not have one, and the other option is... to go the other way and you're shitting on the floor and puking in the toilet and that's not good.

35:21 Oh man, why don't you get a bathtub? You might not have one available. Oh man, are you at a 7 Eleven? I don't do this. I am Italian. We don't do that. Okay. It's an Irish thing. Apparently. Yeah. By the way, I hope that Wayne hears this. Cause he's like hardcore Irish. We're going to Florida, man, on Florida, man, tomorrow night. That's different kind of party. You got to bring those up. Yeah. Right. Oh Lord. Dude, they're hysterical. They talk about all of the happenings in Florida and the stories. Even the lore and stuff like that. You know, Florida's got some weird ass shit in the history of everything. Skunk apes and fucking monkeys on islands and other weird shit.

36:02 Meth heads on every corner with ninja stars and shit. Florida is the state where you hear a story about Florida and you it's it's Florida. Oh yeah, you can lie. you know, it's you know, he's a fucking bold faced line of people and they'd be like, Oh, it's Florida. But do you expect? Oh my God, dude. It's because they're always baking. There's no winter here. Oh yeah. There's no downtime. We need like a grizzly hibernation, like normal people. Yeah, No, it's all the heat and the math just missing the game, the swaps, you know, Gators, They Am I right? I honestly, my thought process behind it was it's a shit ton of people that don't deserve it yet. If you're moving away from where you came from because you hate who you are or what you are or where you're at.

36:48 Don't bring that here until you figure out your fucking problems, because they ain't going away. You just brought them here. You just brought your stink face from New Jersey to Florida, and we're all tired of you. fucking go back, meditate think of it. No! Everyone in the states got like a tie to like, New York or New Jersey. It's like, it might not be them, but it was like their grandpa or uncle or mom, somebody. Wife is from Jersey, parents from Italy and Columbia. They're both immigrants. So, yeah, like you got, like, you got a cousin or somebody in New York, I guarantee it. Oh, my entire family's from New York. from like, pretty much all my is from New Jersey and New York. Yes. And actually, my biological father his family lives in New York as well.

37:30 it's like... My family went to Las Vegas and everyone is like, yeah, two choices. Like when you're like Italian and you want to not be cold anymore, Vegas or Florida. That is that Those aren't the destinations. That is, it wasn't California for me. I love Cal North Cali. But like, yeah, you just got to give them like half your money So I grew up on kent palace in the base, but we was right off the coast perfect weather all the time not living this hot ass state 100 and some degrees i'm walking outside wet Yeah. It's moist. Day over, Day Day is over. You gotta start over just trying to open your car door.

38:10 it's Like, fuck. Yeah. And people talk about Vegas, and hot is hot. When it's 115, it's fucking terrible, But that humidity, it's so much worse. You're trying to eat your air. Yeah, and you're over here, like, trying to drink up the air because you're so dehydrated. Yeah. It Yeah. It is. The humidity sucks. Like, at least in Vegas you're hot, but you don't got swamp ass 24 7. Swamp ass sucks, dude. It's everglade ass. It's a real thing. Oh, yeah. I'm gonna get that diaper. looks... Oh yeah, man, you gotta get dude wipes. Well, hey man, uh, you know that I am all about the, uh, fuckin never using TP. I think toilet is disgusting. I think we're evolved. I think we've gone far enough to know that paper does not solve a poop problem.

38:53 Because if it was on your arm or your fucking finger or whatever, it's like a five alarm fire. You're running to the sink, you're scrubbing down. And for some reason, it's okay to just smear it around back there with some dry paper and call it a day. Go back to work. do all these, no. You need wipes, a shower. There's an order of operations here. It is shower, bidet, wipes, spit on your toilet paper. paper. They call that the Alabama wet wipe. I Wet Wipe. I am not papering my ass. See, You a couple more. Well, I'm sure there's more in there. Because, you know, I work out.

39:34 In a moving company. People forget to give you toilet paper all the time. You got wet sock. Oh! Wet paper towel. Yes, that's in there. Dry paper towel. Yeah. They're too good. They are. Less likely to get a finger poop. Bear. hands. Paper towel has a little more strength. You can get a little aggressive with a paper towel, you can't with a wipe. Otherwise it'll look like you're wearing that bitch like doughnut. Yeah, yeah. And That shitty sock puppet. is... Oh, man, your sock puppet has a dirty Sanchez. Yeah, you got to just never see that side again. Don't even think about that.

40:14 You don't watch that. about that. I got so many things stuck. So I'll finish this one. So Irish goodbye. third drink in Jameson. Um, Tyler, who's going to come on to the show. Um, he lost the race. but. He couldn't stop. And there's a curb. And then there's a very large hill that goes down. Oh And, uh, there's Jameson Yeah, grassy hill. Um, oh, he's. Yeah, so we're like a lot of animal lovers on the crew So like about 40 people brought their dogs and first week we're like, Hey, like, could you guys, uh, give a dog bags and shit And they're like, no, that's not even our property.

40:58 Like one cares. So it rained the day before too. Um, well he comes up the hill with two broken arms, badly broken, um, like lots of stitches and just covered in poop. Um, I, yeah. Number one thing to keep out of your cuts. Yeah. Like, I feel like that's like I like the worst possible item on the list of things to rub in your cut. Yeah, so Yeah, above my toilet in at my house. It's a picture of him in the hospital bed with two broken arms. He said, give it a touchdown, just says could be worse. could be worse. Um, it Could be worse. It could be worse. I'd be so afraid.

41:39 The only one worse is, I the in, in high school, I think there was a guy that got bullied. that got pushed over in, uh, They, you know, schools always have construction on for some reason, always, like there's no situation where they're not Not in Cleveland, They just let it die. Well, no, I mean, they just basically put all the kids in portables. like that's what it is. I mean, leave it to florida to move you to a trailer at school too. Yeah but these um, these portables had bodies and this dude went into the portapotty and he was a bully. And what's the best thing to do to a a potty with a bully? What's that? So which way do you push it?

42:21 Yeah, on the door. yeah, yeah, forwards. onto the door. So they can't get out. Can't get out. My dude was screaming in there, covered in that. I gotta kill you though. That's the thing. Like. But you don't know who pushed it. And I start killing one by know who pushed it. And I start killing one. by One One by one. Everybody dies. Eye off the first person, someone snitched, guaranteed. They're coming out blue. Number two is telling. Immediately. You kill one, you kill one person, the second guy, you come back right there. Oh, I thought you meant you were going to tell. No, no, like, that was the least, the least manly thing. I'm telling! I'm telling! Oh, no, I'm snitching on you ass. I'm not telling that nobody, but the number two person you're about to kill is going to tell. Like the bully just went all fucking, I'm done!

43:01 Oh, yeah, someone's telling. That's what I'm doing. You push shit over on me, I'm probably going to cry like a kid at that point. Oh, no, that's... I'm gonna be like, have a breaking point where I know I will start committing murder. That's, murder Legitimately. That's that's on there. Yeah. That's me going out my way. Yeah. Fine. Yeah. that's But there will be a moment in time, probably the next day where you just sit down and cry. Yeah. cuz you were in a fucking chair. Probably like that night. Yeah. Like dumb and dumber. Or no, Ace Ventura. Yeah. When he's in the shower spray himself that's gonna make me want and you even more if I catch myself crying like Yeah. Oh that Worst thing, ever is a crying angry person. Oh yeah.

43:41 In a fight. Like that dude is a whole, that's, that's a wild card. He's not even gotta be strong, but he's got fury fists that are swinging from like Starting behind him all the way around coming outta nowhere. Tears just flying See me in high school. That was my brother chasing me like I get mad as hell i just Tears falling my face, just going at me. Oh, that's terrible. That's the worst, man. It's like pure emotion. Like You do that right before a power slide. Just come out crying. Just, I'm I'm so sorry for what I'm about to do to you, man. Oh! Bring out a violin and have it play to you. Yes, we gotta definitely talk a little bit more about this.

44:24 Dude, come out with a tablecloth. Put it on the power slap thing with a little rose and then up a triangle like it's dinner time I'm gonna ring your bell. Dinners, it's time for dinner. People are gonna want to know this. how did you into this Uh, I was watching Whisper. you were watching what? Whisper. Uh, it's like you said something something porn. I think you said moist credit porn. I was like, what is moist credit porn? It's I'll all different. just let you This legend is slapping.

45:04 Moist credit, I don't know if that is my thing. I don't know. Yeah, no, He's like a pretty big YouTuber right now. And us on his videos, uh, they had a league in Russia or Poland some European countries. They had a league over there that was Nothing to do there. And then, uh, they started a league over here. Saw a couple of of their videos. I was like, yeah, that stab, no, that looks like fun. looks like fun. I could do that. My wife finally convinced me, just girlfriend at the time, she was like, go do it. Like, you've been down talking about it, just go do it. Why not? Try it out. So I messaged them, you know, got in contact with everybody, they're like, Sure, we'd love to have you on.

45:45 and Put me up against Frank the with his, like, 14 fights at the time. And he's a 40 year old man, probably. You're like, what, 17? I was... 18 18 I think just lost 19 or just add to see is why after a certain age as a man, don't put yourself out there anymore, dude. Like, you know that you were, there's a point in time in your life and you know, you're stronger than the generation above. You just know that. At some point, it just happens. It's like, It's gonna happen to me soon, like, when those dudes above I feel like that's the point where you should know. what you're saying. When they get to 90, the generation above me, I'm gonna be stronger than them. Oh, that's when you go back at them.

46:27 I'm trying to get I push down senior citizens. It's Like, I'm like, You hurt somebody growing up. Alright. That's awesome. It just sounds old. Oh, Snow City is like, literally just a city for rent. They literally have specific like, sidewalks for golf courses. Yeah. You're out by Ruskin. Yes. Speaking of Ruskin, I was there one time. Yeah, it's um, Not much to do. No, no, but people don't realize, I described Florida before. Florida is all coastline and the middle is Alabama with a mouse. That's all it is, dude. It's. Nothing else. Yeah, there's, if you, Unless you go into the coast.

47:09 Don't come. Yeah, no. And don't, don't be either driving through that area. Oh, yeah. It's so racist in old school. Right. It's so bad. My wife, my don't me when I tell them all the random racist shit that I've had to experience. to Florida is. like It's like They get mad sometimes. It's like a house of a house of mirrors, dude, or like some kind of like I couldn't imagine walking through being a black man through like 7 Eleven in like Melbourne. Nah, not even that. Go to like, think of like the widest gated community. Oh, right. We give to Chariot. Because my grandmother bought a house there when they were first building it. So we had moved in recently and just walking through that, that place, the things you hear, just like, damn you, to my face, just like right now, like, I don't know.

48:00 Just boom. Oh man, I wish you, I would say you just give people that slap when they did that, Just watch them just go down. Just bam. You should hand them a card after they say it. With your like, position and what you do, professional power slapper. Like, I feel like that would a lot of problems life. If you were to get, you know, fall out of your mouth and act like an asshole or something like that. If the repercussion was a lifetime slap. I think a lifetime slap would actually work. Like, you're allowed to slap one person a year. I feel like, honestly, I'm the type of person that really believes, truly believes that some people deserve to get punished about.

48:41 Oh, 100%. 100%. Everybody. I'm not, I don't advocate violence, but there's a moment in time where that is the mechanism that stops the situation. Exactly. Like, once we took that out of the equation, like. A lot of of people started talking a lot of shit. Yeah, they can say anything they want now. Anything. Oh, but there nothing better than seeing someone that is in that raging moment. Where someone's just like, you know what? I'm going to cut off the societal fucking norm here, and I'm just gonna pop you in the mouth. You see, like, take one, And And like just, dude it's the floor. Like, I told you not to say that. And they're like, Oh, you were trying to say something to get me to hit you.

49:28 You just kept elevating the things you were saying until I have to love that though. I mean, it's bad. I shouldn't advocate that, but there are times where it's just like, yeah, I, I'm not a violent person. I don't think violence should be the thing that we have to resort to. But people are stupid. I 100% say that you have to like, sometimes you got to speak somebody's language for them to understand you. Bullies. There's a lot of bullies here in this state. They drive bullish, they act bullish, they are just always bullying. And that is honestly one of my number one triggers. Like if I'm in 7 Eleven and I see somebody dicking the, the uh, foreign person working at the cash register. Oh yeah, I get, my wife grabs a seat That's my problem.

50:10 I do all the time. I don't care about anybody else. It's the bully. Yeah. I care about that dude. That dude? Messing with a man trying to just make a living. Yeah. Like, no, fuck outta here. Yeah, I, uh, I almost went to jail in Mexico. Um. Wait a minute. That's a, That's a Willie Nelson song. Oh, yeah. That's a Willie Nelson song. song. I almost went to went to I to Mexico and I use, like, my miles, and I don't remember exactly why, but I got a free stay at this all in Cancun, I those places. And uh, so I'm sitting there and it's my first night there and I, you know, I was there by myself and there was like a bunch of white people there and it was like a 48 to 50 something year old, like pretty big, like, look like a Carhartt millionaire type dude, like construction worker guy, older.

50:55 Tommy Bahama. Yeah, Tommy. Yeah, definitely We're Tommy I'm sure. And they're sitting there and they're just talking about, it was right after got elected. They're just talking all this firm shit the whole time. And he's telling his friend, like, I've been coming here for 10 years. It's like, you get burgers here. You get pizza. You don't have to just eat tacos. I'm like, just go to Florida. What the fuck are you even doing here? And I'm just like, getting more and more aggravated. And I already didn't want to be there. And before he got there, I've talking to the bartender. And, uh, He had been on the waiting list for years to get that job. He's talking about like, how, you know, the jobs and the resorts are, you know, he's from, know, yeah, he drove an hour to work every day and his kids and, you he's finally got the job and he'd worked his way up, you know, and making, you know, good money for there, you know? So the guy starts telling them like, You know this bar, it's like the wall, you know, it's like you could stay on your side, we could stay on our side, you know, work, we over here, you know, you don't have to be over here.

51:46 not like like yeah And I was like, hey, man, like he's just trying to work. Like, you know, you can like chill out, you know? And then he's just like, nah, he's like, I don't understand why everyone's got like, why do they have to, you know? And just like, it's getting more. know, and I was like, dude, I'm like, just chill, man. He said what are you gonna do about it? I'm like i'm gonna slap the shit out of you. of you This is way before Power Slam. He's like, I bet won't. And I backhanded him as hard as I can. Oh, hell yeah, dude. What? can And he stood up and was about to hit me. And he walked and told on me. Fuck you. Yeah. And he was to the same thing. For people that can't tell by how this looks here, I'm about five, four with the Jordans on.

52:26 And guy was... Probably six feet tall. He would probably whip my ass. So the cops fucking come and they were not as cool as they should have been. Um, and, but they basically said like, you could leave right now and that'd be cool. So this is Cancun. So I called Kelvin, uh, who's been on the show, UFC fighter. And, uh, I know he always goes to Mexico to train. And he said, uh, Playa del Carmen is where I usually go. It's like an hour away. He's like, I got homies there. Like, they'll take care of you. Just call them. So I did. Went there and I've been going there ever since and it's much more my speed, but like He's almost like a guy Arrested Dude, arrested in mexico is not good.

53:09 Nah, no like At least it's like Cancun, I feel like it's probably not the worst, it's probably just a bunch of tourists in there all the time anyway, it would suck. I don't know man, that means the dude that's in there knows that you're praying. Yeah. The one that's not the tourist. Yeah, true. But like, I just, I just lost my for a second, this guy would just wouldn't stop, you know, I'm gonna just leave the fucking guy alone. That would piss me off. 100% would have done the same thing. Yeah, you know, I was drinking, so I was dealing with it. And the tolerance just, you know, every one them free fucking shitty well rums or whatever they gave you at the all inclusive, which is... All inclusive resorts. So I grew up really poor. had no idea what vacations were, you know, I made the carnival cruise line mistake and you know, the all inclusive that he's describing.

53:55 you save all your life. To finally get a vacation where you're going with your wife somewhere and it says all inclusive and you don't know shit about what this stuff is. It's a fucking cafeteria in a third world country. It's the worst food that you could possibly imagine. Like, imagine like going to high school, like the high school cafeteria. The spaghetti noodles that you get there or what you get there. It's like a nacho bar. Like it's just, but it's not good. Yeah. It's crappy. And like, there's three good restaurants, but you got to make the like four or five days in advance. Or you have to eat at the buffet where everyone else eats and it's fucking nice into the fuck. It's like the shittiest, like Las Vegas buffet.

54:36 And like, Yeah, not even Golden Corral. You went to like some random town. Yeah, it's not even Golden Corral, it It is less than Golden Corral. It's like the Sizzler Buffet used to be, but like at the end of the night, it's even be worse than Golden Corral. I hate Golden Corral. My granddad used to take us there after church That's so bad. I went to the buffet. I had one of the most scarring moments in food history there. and it was I was going around the buffet and some asshole put what looked like mozzarella sticks right next to like the spaghetti sauce and all the other stuff. It went together.

55:16 It was, and they looked fat and like, I was like, oh man, mozzarella sticks? fuck yeah. Load the plate up, run back over the table, put my marinara sauce on there, dip that bitch in there, took a big ol bite it was a fuckin yam. Oh, not that bad though. That's horrible, dude. Who wants to How grossly the plate? The mozzarella stick was a fuckin yam Yeah, I thinking something was gonna be way worse, like a Gross like fish stick or something, maybe. Yeah, I thought you were gonna say a finger, or you saw like a like a body part. No, a yam. It just a sweet potato. No, yuck, dude, yuck. It was a fried yam. Yeah, I mean, that's probably good. Like, the Probably good. The shock of it not being what you thought was bad.

55:58 That was the problem. But, yeah, but it wasn't, like, true. You haven't bit into a yam pizza yet, then. No, or something just not what it's supposed to be. No, I have not. Same thing, dude. Sauce and potato. It was weird. And, uh, that's not funny. The golden corral is gross, dude. I've literally seen a cockroach. Leave the plate. Like, come from underneath the, like, where they keep all the food and stuff, and then come up, and then then like, go into a plate that was just sitting on the table. Just hanging out. And the server just walked over, killed it real quick, put it on the plate, and then went took it to the van. I like, no, you, you, look like you used the shoe when you did that.

56:40 Did he use the shoe? Oh, no, because you went like this? No, its even worse. That's a classic, Like remember I was like, did pull off shoe? Nah. see. Did you go to the train center? Yeah, oh, he waited. Oh, it's Like, the Wendy's, like the... like it was a Tuesday. Yeah, it's a Tuesday. Yeah. If they don't freak the fuck out, they're too comfortable with that scenario. They're like, is. Kill it, move minutes, we just throw these out. You don't want to know what goes on in a restaurant. Nope, nope, Don't even want to talk about it. Oh, I used to work in Yeah. No. Don't order your shit special. Don't be an asshole. Don't just fucking go in there. Oh, I mess this up every time. Oh, you gotta be extra nice. High five. I'll tip extra.

57:20 Just so they when I come back, don't fuck with my food. Yeah. No. Like, man, I, uh, He's getting fucking floor burgers, pube sandwiches. I don't understand the mentality of a person that could be shitty to the person that's about to be alone with their food before that they eat it. Like, I don't, like, You, you trust societal fucking too much, Matt. No, there's no, that's like some sheltered ass people. that never What was that movie you had me watch waiting, waiting. I watched that movie. Holy recently. Holy shit. Yeah. That was like that. That's real. That's real shit though. I looked at, uh, Captain Deans. I told you in the story before back in the day, Captain D's, like Long John Silver's retarded cousin.

58:00 Like, that's our one. It's like, it's his, his meth headed cousin. is captains, right? That's Long John Silver's. he wasn't born retarded. he made himself. Yeah. He smoked himself into it. Um, anyway, we had this dude that worked there that so. You know, fast food, there's two workers there. There's kids. And then there's the people that you have to work there. Before like The adults that just got to work there, Yeah. There's kids that are just working So, and normally those work the mornings and shit like that, or they're the prep people, right? Yeah. And I had one Saturday where I had to go in the dude that worked there, he looked like Danny Trejo.

58:41 I don't know how else to explain it. He just looked like damn Trail, right? That's called, he was tatted up. What's the prison look? He had, he was tatted up. He had fucking tats on the hands, tats on the neck. And this was the nineties, right? This dude was just angry. never said nothing. He was just always doing his shit. And I never talked to him either. Fuck that. Yeah. Like I'm a 16 year old kid, this guy's gonna break my neck. Right. And I remember walking in and I was like, what is. he was making Cole slow. And coleslaw is just like, know, basically they dump a bag of shredded shit into a canister of fucking mayo, you know, it's something like that. And then they put on a fucking plastic glove and they sit there and stir it, you know, until it's all whatever.

59:24 And that's, who never had that? No, this dude had a plastic glove on. Yeah, even the glove, it doesn't make it better. Doesn't for either. However, that was the least of the problems. Because in his mouth... Was a fucking cigarette with like with like an inch of solid, unflicked ash, just manly hanging there. Like he didn't, his eye wasn't red, He wasn't hurting from holding it in there. He was just. Doing his thing and I'm like, it was just hanging all about Felt me staring from the corner of the room I'm trying to fry fish like Promise to god I heard It It was so He just moved his hand through that heard, And I like, I ain't I've never eaten coleslaw again, I still have it.

1:00:25 Yeah, coleslaw is disgusting. Yeah, but it's made it's people's history foods. Not that kind of white version. You mix too many things together at once. There's way too many opportunities for other shit to go wrong. Why you don't eat casseroles at the, at the fucking potluck. You don't touch any of, I don't need to be, oh. Oh no, my mom ruined that for me such early on. Like, was just like, you ever been in their kitchen before? There you go. I'm like, They got birds. On the counter. They have birds They got birds. They're They just flapping their dander all over your fucking noodle caboodle. caboodle. Yeah. like, you've been in their house, right? I have. I have. And it's cat hair surprise. Oh yeah. I'm like, no. Dude, I almost got stabbed at Fast Food Face once.

1:01:07 Oh Oh no shit. I've had a lot my dad took down a, took down a burglar at Popeye's restaurant when he used to be the manager there. dude. dude. tried to rob the place and my dad just fucking jumped on him, put him in a fucking choke and held him there until the cops got there. Damn. I never get phone like that. No. Were you working when you almost got st stabbed? I was just, dude was threatening to stab you for no fucking reason, I $4 knife everything. Why? I don't know. know. I was just sitting there trying to make fucking like, cause I was in a Chick fil A and I was trying to make these, uh, you know, bigots. Oh, what the fuck is it called? I forget. Nuggets? I was, it was, the nuggets, but they have a little writing around them.

1:01:49 Oh, like the tenders or the, or like the, uh. Sandwich. the breakfast ones, right? Yeah, the breakfast. Oh yeah. You know what I'm talking The spicy chicken biscuit. put a little honey on it. Yeah. It said it's the shit. Yeah. I was over there just making, them doing work. I'm struggling because I had just started and no one taught me how to do anything So I'm over here And this dude like smash, send it, send it. And this dude just is like, man, you know what's up? Man, fuck this dude. And the girl says to me like, You need to calm down before you come with this bitch and stab your your ass. You don't know what about. And I'm over here like, Bro, I'm just trying to work. Tired of these motherfuckers. And then she's like, Man, I ain't worried about him.

1:02:30 I got a nothing right here in my pocket right now. He could get this anytime. I'm like, Well, like. I didn't even say anything. why Why you, why are you threatening to poke me in my side meat? We're just doing sandwiches here. I just want to close your in my own business. Can't you just Can't we just keep this to a slap? Yeah. I love the fact that you worked at Popeye's and he worked at fil A. fil a. Oh yeah, that is kind of kind of odd the fuck up. I guess you were in the front, I was in the back. Well, I mean, I'm not gonna say that. They can't meet in the the back of the house. Oh Yeah, You mean like they do in Florida restaurants where one side of the restaurant is seated black, the other side is seated white?

1:03:12 don't do that, do they? Oh, dude. Oh, if you're black, the back. Oh, yeah, dude. that's what they say. don't, You can't put a black table next to a redneck table in Florida. It would it would result in some kind of fucking unless they already knew each other if they already knew it Like there was a if there was a there's a gap then the black people won't get the rednecks, you know Get a little hyped up. They're going to have a whole different issue. Yeah Me and my brother Moe, my brother Moe's redneck as hell. and I am who I am We can't we start hanging out and drinking together whole lot issues started, unfolding. we start getting active. Yeah.

1:03:52 We started going out, one douche. Like, our girls are over here like, alright, it's time to go in, It's two in the morning. Oh yeah. We're trying to hang out. I get yelled at for um, trying to put CPA. my buddy, who is a CPA. Into a rear naked choke at 3 a. m. on New Year's because we were drinking moonshine that we shouldn't have been. I'm not even that person. You shouldn't have ever been. Like, it's not a thing that should be. Somebody brought it and I was like, why is that still a thing? Like, you just buy liquor. See, I said that too. Like I don't, I don't need a hundred fucking fifty proof anything. I see if I can light up on a fire, it's too strong.

1:04:35 Yeah, Yeah, it's like, how drunk do you that back in the day. It never fucking worked well. Oh man. How drunk do you need to be? Like if regular, like Jack Daniels or something ain't doing it. You think that we're doing it because we wanna get and not fucking forget about our life. Yeah, but that's the reality. You don't need that much to do that. See, the only logical way I used to put it is... The stronger the alcohol, the less I'm going to need a drink. Yeah. I thought that too, but for some reason I just Once you get to the out no, no, because once you get to the point of no return, you're just ahhh. I say like shot number four. You stop feeling Shot number four is a very, very pivoting point.

1:05:16 Oh, trust me. That's alcoholic practicing, of course. No, I smoke weed, that's all I need. I, I never fucking fought anything but a bag of Doritos, like two drinks is like, I never had to chew my arm off after a night at the club. Two shots is the sweet spot. I'm good at bowling. I'm good at hitting on girls. I'm good at playing pool. Like the inhibitions are down a little bit. You're a little loose, but you're not like too, but you hit number four and it's like, It's downhill. That's over the hump. Four is me. Four shots. That's just to get the party started. We going. We're doing something. After It's coming, dude. when I start drinking, I just... It's coming, dude. there's going to be a day when the hangover outweighs the fucking drinking.

1:06:01 When it's like day three and you're still trying to get rid of that whoop whoop whoop whoop. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It'll stick with you if I get drunk right now, Oh, yeah, I'm dog shit for one whole day. Terrible. I feel like the worst Like want to puke, lay in bed. Second day I'm just like tired, like body aches. Third day I'm still like, God damn. And then I'm like, bro, it just happens. There ain't nothing you can do about it either. I'm this is your future, but white. He's like, I never thought of that. No, no, it's not. Oh, okay. I guess it is. What happened to the bell? He just left. And then he somehow Swerved into other side of traffic on the way home.

1:06:42 I don't want to be white! I don't I don't want to be white! Oh, man. You want to be Caucasian. Oh man, dude. I gotta tell you, dude. I had my 23 don't want to be Caucasian. I had my 23 and me get updated on something. And I'm not one of those people that are like, you know, I need to be something, You know, or I'm going going to say I'm a 1% something or anything like that. Because I'm not! But it honestly disappointed me when they didn't map me back to Africa. I'm like, like, where did I come from? Like I don't want to be black, you know I mean? I'm my own self, but it bothered me that I fucking popped up in like Germany.

1:07:28 Have you this whole time thought like I thought all humans came from back that And they do. But for some reason they like to drop me just there. That's way far away. I don't give a shit. It made me feel like an an alien. You're thinking way Yeah. You're thinking like know I needed that. I just needed to know that I was part of everything. If you think about it, 23andme is for like reciting. It is. I know, but it just bothered me. They also said, I was like 2.5% Neanderthal. That was like, good god dude. It's gotta be higher than that. No, well, yeah, my forehead. Yeah, that's like a five. head. five. I dunno. Yeah. Yeah. I looked at that and like, son of bitch, dude. I'm like, damn. I'm knuckle white moron from fucking the morons fucking Sweden.

1:08:12 It's some weird shit. You got bad barbarian, I guess so. I dunno. Shake the Romans asses I think that this is a real thing, though. I think that white America really hates being white America. Oh, yeah to a certain degree. I believe everybody but you could definitely tell in like well you should You find a lot of people that force themselves into a minority situation in order to avoid being who they are I'm, not saying all people do that, but there's a lot of people that will say i'm one percent black You know what? I mean? I had a lot of Friends funny enough. I used to go to this like mega Church, it's called mosaic church down in orlando House a big ass church.

1:08:55 don't know like eight black families I'm not saying that they were racist at the church, they definitely weren't, they treat everyone nicely, But they did have, you know, Uh, equal a water fountain. , what are we gonna say here? They didn't have a quality day where they had to be like, Hey, invite your back friends like that's of what I got. Yeah, But that was like recruiting. Recruiting? Because that's that's all about making money. And they're like... they needed people to, they called, they called it the draft. They called it the draft. It was really weird, . Yeah. But they literally got like a black preacher. And like had a like, They mean, well, they mean, well, it's like the white person bringing fried chicken to black history month at the potluck at at the same time.

1:09:47 It's just like, Calm down, you don't have to do this, like, we, know. Yeah, I, I, I like tacos too. Yeah, like, we should all get some some hamburgers, man. Yeah, Go get some pizza talk all the time. Wine collared greens and fucking all. No one likes collared greens. They're gross, You smell like farts. They're delicious. They're, they're delicious. only with hot sauce. They're not delicious. Right. If you Only with hot sauce. My best friend's aunt. aunt. Made the best collard greens I've ever had in my life. I've heard it from, I'm from Cleveland. my my friends' parents own barbecue restaurant, soul food places. I've had them in the south. I've had 'em all over the place. Best. They're okay. But if it's, it may be the collard greens.

1:10:28 Maybe it's just It might be, but nobody's like thinking, man, the most delicious thing ever had was collard green. No, that's never crossed my mind. That's like they might be good, but they're not like, We're not talking about like they smell like hot farts when fucking cooking. They're like, it's maybe a a good addition. People aren't like, oh, man, I'm just like, uh. sides. Yeah. Top ten sides. But there's also also like not has to be a home. Yeah, it's true. Yeah, I guess. No, it looks like wet grass that I pulled out of my fucking back into my lawnmower. Yeah, I guess everyone's got their thing. You guys do it too. My mother's atal or my mother-in-law's Italian. My wife, I have Freudian in there. My wife. Is Italian and they eat stuff called like escarole.

1:11:10 I don't eat any of any of that. Broccoli rabe. You ever heard of broccoli rob? That's a white thing. Let me tell you, it's like fucking broccoli it's like all skim in this long and boiled. It's disgusting. I'm not that kind of Italian. We eat all the pasta and all that shit and then you have this little ass sale at the very end that my grandma roughage. eat in it for the roughage. That's what she would say. I yeah, but it was like iceberg lettuce, and like little piece of carrot, and that little of red like whatever that purple thing is. I don't even know what the fuck that thing is. like a purple. It's a purple colored thing Radish? It's not a radish though, it like uh piece of cabbage, I guess, or something. Oh, okay, like the the generic, like, fake ass little salad you get.

1:11:53 Comes out of a bag. Yeah, it's like that, exactly. You need all, everything, and then we'd eat that last. Every time. That's, no. How do you do that? It was just like, help digestion. I talk to this, this, uh, with my trainer all the time, I talk to I'm like, Vegetables. If we're going into the gym, give me what I hate the most first. When I eat my meal, I eat my vegetables first. Because they're Because they're the shittiest The best Thank you. Is that's, that's probably your psychopaths on vegetable. well, we, we, have dessert after that. How do you go from green bean cake? I'm not saying, I don't We get, we're trouble right now. We're like angry him. we could also, but we didn't to eat very much cuz like, I'm full.

1:12:35 Oh, you didn't have a parent mine that was going to serve it to you the next morning. Yeah, no, you had you had to finish that plate. you weren't getting dessert. Nah, with food, we don't we don't we don't force food upon people. Oh, wait, actually, that's not true. Oh, wait a minute. My mother has two lasagnas and a fucking bowl of meatballs in there just from yesterday when she was she was here. We don't force, we don't force bad on people. There's no, there was never in my house, like, eat it or wear it. It was like, nah, I mean, this shit, is good. Eat it or wear it. They didn't tell me to wear it. But they definitely fuckin made me sit there and state puke. I would never have a kid and make them eat something that makes them feel like they're gonna vomit. Like, I'm okay with try something, see if you like it, whatever.

1:13:16 But my parents never sat down with their least favorite food at the table as adults and fucking sat there and ate it. Is that they're fuckin adults? Cuz they're like, no, I'm not eating these Brussels sprouts cuz they taste like shit. That was me, was me and my mother with a fuckin raw tomato. Should get. That's the fruit. Raw tomatoes. That's the fruit that God chose to blow his nose in. It really works. It's gross. Disgusting. I've never, to this day, if I start like I take a bite of raw tomatoes, no gagging. I don't like ketchup, spaghetti sauce, pizza, Oh fine. Perfectly fine. Yeah. Raw tomatoes, I'm Italian and I'll first tell you rot tomato, no need for that. Unless they're the little, very tiny small ones and like kabushi salad. Those snap in your mouth.

1:13:56 Those I like. Even worse. That's better. Cause it's not just like, gushy in the middle. Can't do it, Yeah, no. That's where I, that, I don't do bell peppers. I love bell peppers. I'm sorry. I, yeah, you should. Yeah, Bell peppers good. It serves a good consistency. It's like, not mushy. It tastes good. no, no, no. no. Stuffed bell peppers? Yeah, stuffed bell peppers are Shit. My stepmom to make me fucking eat the pepper, too. Like, I didn't want to eat it. Like, I hated them. So I'd eat the stuffings and get kind of, like, smoosh the pepper with the fork. I tried to make it disappear. it looked shorter. Let's see, I didn't tell him. You just gotta, you gotta spread it out like this. I to fucking put kidney beans in napkins, shit like that. Like, I hadn't eaten this.

1:14:36 I grew up poor and everything came out of a box a can. And then suddenly they started throwing real vegetables at me and tasted weird. Everything was chewy. I was like... The first time I had green beans? I was like 19 20 years old at a friend's house in the army and I had green beans in a can. And then they don't have like baby food in your mouth. Yes. They put those things on my plate. And I remember biting one of them and I was like, Oh shit. Like I didn't, I wanted to spit it out. because I was like, something's wrong. They forgot to cook it, like something went wrong. And I see everybody else like, gnawing on them, like, it's a good thing. And I'm like, Oh yeah. I remember when I was like, Oh, crazy. it's just like. The whole thing, right?

1:15:17 Yeah, and snap it? Like, what, what's going on here? They're They're like, they don't taste bad. They're just good. No. I like edamame. edamame. Edamame, I'll just fucking sit and march on that with garlic and salt and the garlic. you're just getting that, like, the regular taste of the edamame. I've got to get my vegetables somehow. We've already established that it's the last thing I want to fucking. Yeah, absolutely. First. I didn't have it. There's lot of good ones, but they, they, there's a marketing problem too, when you're a kid. Like you. They were presented as a thing that you're going to hate and fucking have to eat it. They made all the fake food taste a million times better. Yeah. I mean all that shit. Give me a grape or give me grape flavored something.

1:15:58 Yeah. I want grape flavored something. It tastes better. Except medicine. Grape flavored medicine for some reason. is the worst. You ever had candy grape? That's not true. It's a real thing? Go to Publix. They have grapes that they sell that are called cotton candy grapes, and they are seasonal, and they taste like fucking cotton candy. Yeah, see, that's not good. That's genetically modified. See, You're probably gonna hate me for this I don't one. I don't either, but it's so weird as shit. Like, I don't, I'm not gonna gnaw on air and sugar. I don't like the way that, like, it, when you eat it. Yeah, don't like it either. And then everyone I saw that it melts to the roof. I don't like it. And then man, like when you're like, some of that turns into like the grossest shit when you're a kid, It's like liquefies all over you somehow.

1:16:42 I I don't like having dirty hands unless I'm unless I'm something that requires to be dirty and then I wash my hands when it's time wash my hands. Oh yeah. I wash my hands I, I, I have, I have can tissues, um, with all of my mental health shit. I got some TSMs that are floating around in there. And one of them is that for the last 20 years I've never used a paper towel that wasn't wet. In my house, I keep one when I eat dinner, I take a paper towel, and fold it in the fourths, I wet it right out, and just have it sit there, and when everybody else is using their paper towel, mine's wet. Because when I wipe my mouth, my mouth is clean. It's not fucking smooshed around. You're really obsessed with this smooshed around. I don't get it!

1:17:23 Like, how is this okay? Like I said, if you had poop on your arm... It would not be okay to just hit it with some paper and call it a day. It's true, but you're not wrong. I'm not wrong at all. It's they shouldn't be walking around with your butt cheeks itching. It's just not a good thing. Yeah. On that note. So a couple more, a couple more things about the slap fight. Uh, just for like, like, we have like all this is a two parter Yeah, we have we have add in here. So we always get like, Yeah, sidetracked. but people always ask me about this. Um, you know, cause. The hitting part is one thing, but the taking it part is what people have a problem with.

1:18:04 And like, when I had to, I was given the of casting the first season of Power Slam. And, there were some guys that had done it, like you said, in and Russia, we couldn't get them cause visas and that. There's all their league, those guys were all in their contracts, and like, there wasn't just not that many, and we a couple of them to coach us. And had to just talk to people get people to do this shit that hadn't been done before, for the most part. Um, and a lot of it, before we were even allowed to that Dana or the UFC was involved at all, we had to get people to try it out. You know, which is, which is, a rough thing. Um, but I have a lot of friends, you know, 20 years working with UFC, got a lot of friends that are pro fighters, dozens of fights, and almost everyone said, fuck off.

1:18:46 I'm never doing that. Like, how, what's the like when you gotta stand in there and just know, bro man, that's big, you you're big dude, you're way glad it's big, he's about to just give everything he's got and hit you in the face. Uh, Honestly, know, I'm just, I don't really think about it, you know, just about it, you know, just stand there, you take hit and I just. No more to it to me like, you we're signing up for doing this for and it's hard to like explain it to people like Joining or that just don't understand it. But like for guys like me and other guys in the sport. This is just It's fun to just go back and forth and knock the shit out of each other. I mean, I like to fight not as anymore, but as a kid stuff, but like every ounce of your dna is telling you to move.

1:19:33 You know, That's the thing. That is, that is a bizarre phenomenon holding. We're one of the only creatures that will do this, by the way, no creature gonna fucking slap another creature in the face and weight. We, we are doing this, but. The fact that you can stand there and not, well, there's the flinch, Which, flinch, which, fuck man, that was a genius add to this entire thing when they made it, Because up, what happened when you flinched? Yeah, it's a flinch, It's an Yes, yes, It's an actual rule, It's an actual rule. rule. which, I was there for the, the fights when they they did it in Vegas, and I was, Both mesmerized and traumatized the same time because it's quiet as fuck.

1:20:18 And this and even the slap, it's quiet after that too. Yeah. , when you're watching them like navigate whether or not they're gonna live. Cuz like it's very like disconcerting to watch a human, be a human, but not know they're human for a few minutes. . It's the only way I can describe it. because you're like, In a whole other world! God. Like, holy shit! So, I mean, So you're standing and you're taking it, like, yes, you're getting that to the face. Are you thinking, I imagine, I would liken it something, for me, I would, if I were to do it, it would be an odds scenario. That's how I work with things.

1:20:59 Like, Like if I'm going to jump out of a helicopter in the army, I'm going to see how many did it before me and live. That's usually how I play the game mentally. So when you step up to get slapped, is that how, that one of the things that you, uh, that you could consider? Look, dude, nobody's died from this. I can take a slap Just fucking give it and move. Yes, thinking like Russia where they, where it wasn't like They don't count. He's like fucking Kodiak Yeah, they was only one guy from that and that was in Russia they Probably smacked the tumor. Yeah, they didn't do any MRIs or anything. and The guy had a pre existing condition. Yeah, you go. It's a boy oh boy type of thing.

1:21:40 That fits perfectly. Yeah, for me though, it's really just like, uh, you can't, you can't focus on how many cause every fight is different. Every competitor you're going to go against is going to hit you differently. So you really, you you just gotta be a bit crazy. I almost broke my teeth, dude. like I go out there every time and just either I'm going to eat his head, and I'm going to hit him back ten times harder, or he's going to me out and I'm going to have to figure it out after that. That's where I, That's the line. Like I don't ever like having the lost look in the eyes. That's, that's just terrifying. Like, I don't understand. Gary and I were talking about this one. I was talking to Kelvin about it. How do you go back and watch a video of you in that state?

1:22:25 I can't think that I, that's, that's something that I don't want to relive. Like I can't watch myself in that because it's so, the vulnerability is at like a a completely level in that moment. You got Forrest behind you, Forrest. I love him. Everything's fine man. Forrest. Forrest. Forrest just makes me feel happy when I see his face. He just makes me feel good. He's into it, too. Like he was not first. And then, you just like, yeah, it's, uh, you know, we had a pro Gonzalez on it and she slapped me in the face really hard and, uh, and she's a pro she's fought in every different aspect of martial arts, you know, and, and, uh, you know, she went to the mat with us and she has a good perspective on things and she said like the defense from where she sees it as like how you get up.

1:23:13 People are trying to stand up really quickly. In boxing, you're taught to use your whole 10 seconds on the ground Face out. and get your bear, you know, the people are up and they're like trying to convince the ref like too soon that they're like good to go or stay long enough. You get, get to your hip, you know, start building your base up and get there obviously don't want to wait too long, but. You know, that's one part that not a lot of people I've heard about, and that was like, her perspective was like, you're gonna go down, gonna go down. It's like, what, it's like, what do you do after that to like, get to the point where you could, you know, be good again? Because, natural instincts for a lot of people is like, get up as fast as you can, or, like, try to be like, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good. That's usually when you face plant or like, you know, kind of stuff.

1:23:57 anybody is like that though. The more we protest something, the more that we have that fucking inclination, the other direction. Oh yeah. You have been when the boxer screams and all the it's like, these fighters don't care. Like you gonna tell me all the time. Oh, this is, there's a risk for this, this, this, this is a fun time. I'm having a great time doing sport. I want to get into boxing I do this. So just. But you know your chin at point. Yeah it's like people know what they're getting into. It's up. It's up to them. It's free world. Like, and also a button on your TV that changes the channel. Yeah. It doesn't, it doesn't have to be this big thing where you, there's drama and everyone's over here.

1:24:40 You're arguing with everyone. Like, just mind your own damn business. Honestly, that is too big of a deal for you, but those people that got it so popular, you know? Like, And anything else, we didn't get two billion views, like, because everybody loved it, you know, it's, Out it's crazy, guys, like, uh. Jewel had like 500 or 350 million, I think ardem Lobov pointed out something fucking great when he was on and it was that no matter what the event that is going on, you could have a million people in the stands watching football, tennis basketball, whatever it is, one fight breaks out, where does everybody look the fight, the fight, always the fight, We are predisposed to being fucking attracted to watching that shit for some reason.

1:25:27 Oh, yeah, It could be the worst fight ever It could be the worst fight ever It could be like fucking four foot dude with like thick glasses on and some other portly guy that works at fucking Gander or some shit. Like it's That guy's got a gun. Oh, yeah, that's true. But yeah, it's just skips all the bullshit You're getting right to just... Just You know, there's no feeling each other out. There's no like this might be boring. Yeah, there's no this might be a boring match Every match is exciting because every match has a good hit and a good receiving like yeah That's It's like wait, it's like when ronda was like Unstoppable and you were like waiting to see like if they could stop more than if she could do it, you know And then homes it fucking cleaned her clock.

1:26:13 Yeah her and uh, amanda, but it was like, uh now it's like We like, And you never know, we had a guy in, uh, Verne, who was on the show and he was just, he was trying everybody, but he never got hit. So Jim was never tested. He went out. See, and that's the thing. I feel like you should have to take one shot to get in. But to to be fair, that's part of the sport. Your first hit is always your worst hit. We tell every guy, and don't leave us until you get that first hit. And they're like, God damn. I'm gonna get your heads, bro. I mean, I remember, to this day, I remember my exact first hit with Frank Tank.

1:26:54 The shit had my legs shaking. The entire rest arrested the match, my legs were shaking. I was just like... God damn. This is why we bob and weave. It's a thing. it's like the anticipation is sometimes worse, you know, like than the actual thing. The feeling of getting to hit him back though, like just the back and forth. I can dig it. It's so, the adrenaline's It's so, satisfying. Oh man. there are some people's faces that look like fucking it's sloth afterwards. They're new to it. They haven't had as many snaps. Oh, do it like, Oh, you build up strength in your face? Uh, if you see Ron, like, he doesn't swell up as much cauliflower cheek, that's bad. And I'm crazy.

1:27:34 And someone just, like, when Wesley got the huge, like, hematoma, like, Joanna got that in a fight once, but you never got to get in her before, like, sometimes it's just like blood vessels and shit just pop a way. I popped a zit on my nose once and it fucking turned the end of my nose purple, I was really mad. It's kind of of the same exact thing. Except not at all. Yeah. And the same exact thing happened, except never once in my life. That's once in my life. equal, right? That's equal. How it? it? That's the same. It's very traumatizing. How was it when you... No. What was that Very squirt her? Look at the mirror. No. Ooh. That's a satisfying one. That is a good one. We're also predisposed to that. No, we're not.

1:28:16 Some people we're are. Dr. Pimplepopper predisposed at six. has a TV show. No. Well, yeah, we're not predisposed at six. Motherfuckers. Well, watch that shit are predisposed. Nah, man, it draws you in That is gross. You've never been pinned down by your wife Like, Like the side of your neck, like, pinching the shit out of your meat. No, no, I don't have a wife or pussy pimples on Pussy pimples? Pussy pimples. Oh. I will wear, a fucking turtleneck If for the bed and she'll hop on your back and be like, Alright, totally get the pimple. Oh, it hurts. Like, come on. If you tell them to stop, they don't let you do them Oh, no, no, no. You don't know how strong you are. Yeah, let me try and do it one time a little too hard and you won't hear about it for the rest of the week.

1:28:59 You ain't never gonna do it again. And, uh, she still has full fuckin reign on anyone. She don't even warn you. You're up there shaving. That is something less gross. It's a real thing though, dude, like go to tock book, get yourself caught up. No, I know what it is. I think it's disgusting. I'm, well aware of how gross it is and I don't want to watch it ever. Um, but yeah, so back to the, to just. just. I hope, for your sake, you never have to hit somebody that has a big ass pimple on their on their face. Oh, don't worry. I'll pop it.

1:29:40 Yeah. Oh! Dude, it's like, 10 10 million FPS or whatever you guys got there? Yeah. That fucking thing would be like, We had one in one in the first match. Uh, the dude with the dreads it cut his whole cheek into like a thousand frames a second. Smiling? It was just, watch rip. Flapping. It was rough. Oh man, Yeah, that's, no, thank that was, man, when we did that first event, it was crazy. It like, shoot, he basically wiped his lip off his chair. It was, I mean, it split right here. It was a joke. Oh man. was a joke of smile. Oh man. And then you hit me on both sides? I wouldn't be eating. Yeah, that's, the whole thing's crazy because it's so new.

1:30:24 I like the guy off in the corner, patting the other side. Yeah. I remember when we first started. I ain't gonna lie there's a lot of rules that we have to get situated because like, for a there, me and like the other guys have been doing it. We're like, look, we just, we just allowing all this happen Like, we just gonna let all this slide Yeah, so like, for people that don't know, there's, their basic rules. You have to keep your feet planted. You're not allowed to move. when receiving the hit, because there's zone in which you're allowed to strike in. Um, where do you see that there needs more rules or less or what do you think? I think we just need more, like, need more like, formatting for what we're allowing in VALOR.

1:31:10 Because for, you know when I was just the matches, usually I can't get to like all the matches, like, in the prelims and everything. and everything. But for a lot of these matches, like, they're calling, flinching on one guy for a small little flinch And then the other guy will do do the same type thing and won't get called. In the same match. Yeah. So it doesn't really make sense. like they're doing the rules. So even when guys ask me like, hey, are they going to call it if I do this? Or are they going to call if I do this? I'm like, honestly, I don't know. It depends on who's reffing the match and like, how can we work around that? I mean, is the answer to just use live time recordings to... Not like, get replay and stuff. I think it's to get all the and refs on the same page on what we're allowing and and not.

1:31:55 Yeah. And it's, it's and it's like, it's pressure up there when you're a ref and everyone's at you and they got to make the call. Never be a ref. Um, you know, we, we went through all these classes with these guys, like when we started and we had like Wolverine and Darius, came. Welcome to slapping 101. It was. it was, we had we had fully catered and we were watching video and going over it and like, they had to teach these guys and like. There's technique to it. I know watching like the whole like coming down and coming up and you gotta, like get the angle. It's like it's a real thing. I get it, but it scares me because it's only gonna get better. Yeah, the striking's getting better.

1:32:36 Yeah, the heads aren't getting softer. Nobody's ever done this motion before and now they're learning how to do it. And it's almost like a swing. Like, yeah. First time you swing a golf club, you're not swinging hard Cause you're afraid not gonna hit the ball, soon as you get that confidence that you're gonna land it right and you could let everything just fly. Oh yeah, that's starts really a yeah, that's Fun sport, man. The head backed up like a P dispenser. you think they're have to put in Things to make power less, whether it be, you know, like Less pivot, the no pivoting should be enough. That makes sense. that's engineering. Honestly, if you can't be taking hits from heavyweights or whatever weight class you're in, just drop drop weight classes.

1:33:19 Yeah. It's as simple as that. If you can't handle heavyweights, don't fight heavyweights. Do heavyweights always hit harder? I'm just curious. I mean, like. been hit me the hardest I've been by a heavyweight. sports. And He's a heavyweight. national So it really, it really depends. But like, there's be like average, like average area, the heavyweights are hitting harder. Yeah, I think has to do with hand speed and accuracy and shit too. But the weight behind it's mechanics, dude, muscles are all made different. There's small guys out there that can lift incredible amounts of weight with zero issues. And who is that? There's a, there's a guy on social media that.

1:34:00 Is a power lifter, but he's really small and he pretends like he's cleaning the all the time. Oh, yeah. Dude's Dude's constantly fucking breaking egos. Yeah, that's just hilarious. And so like, it's really like a toss in the air, but like, Yeah, generally, that's how it goes. Yeah, the bigger. The bigger you are, until you get to super heavyweight, I feel like. like. Yeah. I feel like just... the less like... Super heavyweight? Yeah, those I feel like, you'd like, a guy like Slap for Cash, you would smoke a dude like that. Oh yeah, I was tempted to go up to Super Heavyweight just to, just to see if I could run through the Giants. I think, like, some of those guys can hit hard, but they've got, there's no range of motion at all, like.

1:34:43 Like, they definitely have power. Like, I've, I've fought a dude at super heavyweight before, and they definitely got power. but I still feel like hit harder out of there. Dude, it's, it's the ability to cut the air. It's like accuracy, like getting the right spot and getting that rotation. What do you think about... Darius and Wolverine went 27 rounds The first time, and then second time, it didn't that way. Like what was it that made it so he got the best from that quickly in the second one? Honestly, it's probably just a new rule set, and the slow mo cameras, He got, it probably got to to Darius head, because Darius, he, he has a specific technique where he'll finish with the blow.

1:35:27 Like, you really got to see what he tried do when he gets Dor uh, Dorian in the last match. He tries to go with the blow every time. That's how he was, you know, been doing it for a long time. So he's never really, like, He and his hits, really. So, when he took that first hit and actually to take a hit from Ron, you saw what happened. Yeah, cause you could wager, or gamble, that you could roll with it so close. At the perfect time. Yeah, you've gotta like. But They just they stopped the frame on their face, so they're gonna going to see impact. Right. Yeah before that Yeah, before that, you could, you could, Human eye is one thing in a thousand frames a second is nothing.

1:36:10 Yeah. When I saw that footage, I was like, oh shit. It's a whole different, like, field of reference, and I guess there's just And yeah, I'm hoping he's working on that, you know, coming back strong, because I really want to see that man do I really do. But you know, not until he has to fight me, obviously. Yeah. Well, yeah, you don't root somebody across the podium from you, right? So who's I hope you're knocking me out! Who's next for you? Whoever wins, the next title fight, I'm assuming, or honestly, I dunno, they don't tell me much. So Who who do you think it would be? Uh, it's probably gonna be Dwayne. Cause Dwayne's beating, beaten, I'm pretty sure, yeah, he's beating everybody except for me.

1:36:53 So, is it, uh, does he have to go against someone else, or is it just gonna be you two next? I think he had to go against someone else. I don't know who yet. but I think He's having to do another one. He's not happy about it. Because he told him he was going to get a title fight after the last one. Ah, yeah. And I thought we were going to be fighting other after that fight, too. because he won. Like, he has a number one contender spot. and I'm the champ. Where, where's our fight at? But... So you want him? I mean, I don't want anybody. I love it. I'll go, I've shown him where, if he loses this match, I'll chase him to whatever weight class he moves up to. Because he's talking about... Nice. Yeah, because he was talking about like, If I he can't beat me second time, might as well go to super or drop down to light heavyweight.

1:37:40 I was like, bro, I'll chase you anywhere you want to go, just out of spite. Just, above you. you. heard it here first. So you were a super heavyweight. In the, uh, when you came over to Powerslap, you were super heavyweight, and then like, were you ever that heavy over 265, or you just Oh, I hang out at around I used to be Of like, 260, 266, but not nowadays. walk around like 250, 255. Actually pretty light. Yeah. You know, I'm on putting more muscle. It's a bad, but it's a slow process. Yeah, you don't look that big. Like, yeah. Compared to a lot of the other heavyweights, I'm not the biggest one.

1:38:20 Yeah, but it's density, man. Yeah. It's density. Definitely the most dense motherfucker out there. What about, uh, so Ryan Phillips got the injury, um, and Like, uh, that's rough to go through all that. And then, um, you know, yeah, two, two, two part question is one, like, how do you feel he's going to do when he comes back? into, are you guys starting to work here off hands more? Um, do people do that just in case you get in a situation where you're in the middle of a match or something and you got to hit off hand. Uh, so that's the first part, I think. I think. it really just depends on how much he's working during his recovery.

1:39:03 It's like, it's, it's a bad, you know, it's a bad accident that happened right before he matched in. He's been recovering slowly but surely, so I'm hoping he comes back and shows me what he can do, because that man's got a fucking chin, but you still don't know about his power anymore. because of his arm. And the second part of that question, uh, it's kind of hard to answer, honestly. It's, really depends on guy, because... Like, John Davis, he fucked up his shoulder, so he had to switch to this offhand. And he's been practicing it, but, you know, obviously not as much as Stomping Hand. so, for a lot of guys, like, you should be practicing that, you know, your other hand just Why, Stu?

1:39:46 Stu? Yeah, just to have that option open to you, but You know what personally, me personally, I'm you right, me personally, you ain't gonna catch me slapping my left hand. It's either my right hand or I'm quitting the fucking match. I'm not even fucking playing that shit. I gotta tell you, if I had to do that left handed, somebody's getting karate chopped in the neck, but I'm gonna look like I'm slapping you. Like My left hand is not doing it. I can't even wipe my ass with my left hand. No, I'll, I'll, I'll slap you with a broken hand. or a sweet smile. Swing it, because I'm going to like poke you in the eye. It's going to be so inaccurate.

1:40:26 Oh yeah. It's just, I've never really been good. at Like throwing a left hook or like box or anything. Left hand's perfectly fine. Slapping, I've tried it. It does not go, the accuracy just is not there. I wish I had a good left jab. My Uncle Randy used to make. Jokes about a left handed slap. I don't know. And I'm, I'm the type of person, like, I was telling Ryan Phillips, Hey, if you think you can still slap with that hand, fucking swing that thing, Might as you gotta do what you gotta do. Might as well do something. Yeah, like, I'm, I'm the type, that's how I was raised though. Like, I was just. You gotta do what you gotta do keep going. Like failure's not an option, quitting's not an option.

1:41:06 Yeah, that's, that was the one line they added in that episode from me on the show, Cause I didn't get much lines. but that was the one line of me like, hey, if you think got it, go do it. Cause he like, I think I can maybe get one or two off Because he was losing the point. You can't think you want to or think you're gonna know you have to either. Yeah, go for the home run It's you're either going knowing you're going to do it and give you 120 you know risk it all put it on the line for that one extra chance to win. If you don't believe in yourself, you're not going to make it. Oh, yeah That's that's one thing I like to say all the time. Like if you don't believe in yourself normally like Like If you don't love yourself, how do you expect other people to show you any love and You're not lovable.

1:41:52 You better be confident going up at the same fuck Not even a little bit. Yeah. You gotta be I'm a little bit confident at the same time. Yeah. I think that's a great way to describe you. I like that. I think it's a great place to say you are humble and confident because you're, you're a nice, even keel guy. You're not aggressive. You're calm. You're fun to be around, but you're also a sleeper. And literally, like, putting people to sleep. You gotta have that flip. You know, a little switch. You know, you flip that and it's like... We've all got it somewhere. Everybody has it. You have it at a certain point. At a certain point, an animal will fight back. Oh yeah. No matter how much it's screwed, it'll still bite Every single person has the capability to be a fighter.

1:42:38 says, you know, whether you're willing to really like, push yourself together. Yeah. it has to be the right scenario. It's gotta be the thing that you're willing to defend. Yes, sir. So, I, I wanna tell you, thank you so much for coming in here, man. This has been a lot of fun. We've, we've gone almost two hours, which is, a fantastic deal. We'll just break it up, release it as detentions, let people, uh, Enjoy it. Because, I mean, honestly, sitting around and bullshitting, we don't get to do it as much. Because a lot of these shows are serious, um, that's why we reserve, like, the tensions we can, you know, be ourselves and joke around about stuff and not, uh, have to walk away needing, like, uh, Valium after.

1:43:19 Yeah, I think, uh, Everything's about balance. You know, like, It's hard to to find that though. now. Yeah, it's My face hurts from laughing. so that's always a tip. That's the way it should be. My thighs are hurting. hurting. I love that though. Is there anything you want to wrap up with? Tell us where to find you, all that kind of stuff? Uh, you can find me on at the Bella Center. Instagram, instagram, TikTok, also on YouTube. And uh, to And anyone that wants to message me, you know, about challenging me to a fight. Don't do it, you'll get your shit rocked, champ shit, get trapped, and you're good. Like, don't be a thread hero.

1:44:02 That's That's a good mic drop right there. It is. On that note, be cool and keep learning.